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009. Peoples thoughts and layouts/stock

Right so I'm building with friends a 009 layout and think 009 is absoululey brilliant. My most recent buy is today at narrow gauge north, where i bought a complete Langley Models double fairlie kit with chassis. It cost 43, which is a real bargin since brand new it would cost 85.
So what do you think about 009?
And if you own any................................
andysleigh

i think 009 is great!
I personally dont model in it, and probably wont, but some of the layout, stock, scenes etc have a very nice narrow gauge esk feel.
i often look to 009 for 16mm inspiration
pauly

009 is 1 of the scales I intend to model in at least once before I die!
MDLR

I used to model in 009 (before I saw sense and started in 16mm) and what I like about it is the way you can build a big layout with very little track - the layout becomes a model of some countryside with the railway running through it.

Of course, if you're limited for space you can build a micro layout that goes on a shelf!
taliesin001

I used to model in 009 and it was great. The reasons for this were that I liked creating a 'scene' in that it usually wasn't about the locos or rolling stock but the whole package. I liked to be able to create the scenery and small narrow gauge stations with lots of detail. I gave it up because it was taking so long (I have a habit to keep changing my mind on what I wanted!) and therefore cost alot and I couldn't afford to model both in 009 and sm32. So after changing to n gauge I gave that up and just focused on the bigger stuff, allowing me more time and money to persue this. The reason I like this is because it is more about the trains and has more engineering, mostly it is more like the real thing. I probably have this view because I don't yet have a garden railway so the locos and rolling stock is my primary focus. However when I do get a garden railway I think that the trains will become part of the whole thing again because I enjoy creating the railway, and making the trains look right on it. Overall this is probably just like modelling in 009 but outdoors. The attraction of this for me is that things act like the real thing, with the plants, weather and that things left outside get naturally weathered down.
Mr. Bond of the DVLR

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Of course, if you're limited for space you can build a micro layout that goes on a shelf!


You can do that in 16mm scale as well....
SillyBilly

Love looking at it, but for me building and operating it is far too tricky.
MDLR

Mr. Bond of the DVLR wrote:
Quote:
Of course, if you're limited for space you can build a micro layout that goes on a shelf!


You can do that in 16mm scale as well....


......... but you need a bigger shelf!
MTA

Personally I can't stand it, much like N gauge. It's just the way some of the locos run, mainly badly and noisily and at some speed to stop them juddering as they move along.
Endless, Nameless

MTA wrote:
Personally I can't stand it, much like N gauge. It's just the way some of the locos run, mainly badly and noisily and at some speed to stop them juddering as they move along.


Only the British stuff- modern H0e is ace! Lilliput U class 0-6-2s that put the LGB ones to shame both in terms of detail and running quality, the Roco Austrian tank locos are even better.

I agree regarding the true 009 stuff mind- it looks pretty but runs awfully in most cases!

I'm another one that likes the "railway in the countryside" that 009 seems particuarly well suited to. That said, a town scene in 009 would be ace- tracks weaving between houses (think W&L), a cramped terminus, goods yard etc and an industrial branch.

You've got me thinking now, gits.
taliesin001

Endless, Nameless wrote:
I agree regarding the true 009 stuff mind- it looks pretty but runs awfully in most cases!

Thats exactly right. It seems you have to have alot of skill to make it run well, at prototypical narrow gauge speeds. Another thing I don't like is the fact that using a commercial n gauge chassis also means that an outside framed loco it forced to have inside frames, unless of corse you fork out to buy a backwoods kit. Even then it is so complicated I don't think I could make it run smoothly!
90733

taliesin001 wrote:
Endless, Nameless wrote:
I agree regarding the true 009 stuff mind- it looks pretty but runs awfully in most cases!

Thats exactly right. It seems you have to have alot of skill to make it run well, at prototypical narrow gauge speeds. Another thing I don't like is the fact that using a commercial n gauge chassis also means that an outside framed loco it forced to have inside frames, unless of corse you fork out to buy a backwoods kit. Even then it is so complicated I don't think I could make it run smoothly!


Or N-drives chassis, which are absolutley tiny.
My stock runs FAIRLY well  
Endless, Nameless

Most of it is unavoidably down to short wheelbases and tiny wheels I think- most older N gauge British chassis are pretty poor anyway but it seems even worse 'cos of the slllloooowwww speeds of narrow gauge.

Trackwork has to be perfect too of course.

I stand by the Roco stuff- even with track laid on the carpet the digital 0-6-0T I had (long tanks, outside frames) ran perfectly down to a slow crawl over pointwork. I was really impressed by it! Digital helps of course- 12v to the wheels all the time gives it a fighting chance of getting the power the motor!
MDLR

The best "loco" I had was a 4 wheel railbus on a Kato chassis which was virtually a solid block of metal with the motor embedded in it. It would C - R - A - W - L if you wanted to, went like $hit off a shovel as well (useful when I dropped the mouse body on it - don't ask) and would haul  ALL the line's rolling stock if you asked it to, even though it did look more than a little silly doing so!
90733

The Kato chassis are very good and not badly priced at all. The same goes for the Bachmann Plymoth chassis.
Matt

I kind of like 009 scale.  Who's seen the county gate layout?
taliesin001

I've seen pictures of it, but not at an exhibition although I would like to. It has to be one of the best.
andysleigh

i saw this layout at the brighton model world show this year, and found it pretty damn good.
http://www.009.cd2.com/

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