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DolwyddelanLightRail
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:32 pm    Post subject: A new addition Reply with quote

I have finally got an Edrig! In red!
Hopefully it should prove to be a reliable runner (and the most powerful!).
I had a bit of a shock when I compared the size to my mamod locos though! I didn't think it would be that big!
I think I am going to take off the horrible "Made in China" sticker on the bottom of one of the tanks!

Are there any tips that I may need to run this loco? ( I won't be able to run it for at least 4 days).
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats! Lovely engines...



As for tips, just do it according to the instructions and you should be fine... Remember 'GOW' - Gas, Oil, Water. Or it could be done in a different order. Use your steam oil in the lubricator, and 3 in 1 oil for lubing the motion. It will be slightly stiff to start with, but will loosen up each time you run it.

And don't forget, video your first steaming... I did (or rather, my 2nd as the first video was cr@p!):
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one, good to see you managed to get one. Just follow the instructions and you should be all right. You might find the burner a bit tricky, turn the gas up slowly whilst holding a lighter just inside the smokebox. If you turn the gas up too much you will get a nice big flame out of the smokebox, which will give you a scare if nothing else!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mhlr wrote:
and 3 in 1 oil for lubing the motion.

Donb't use 3in1 oil on the motion it's thin as it is and as it heats up it'll go even thinner. You can get some bearing oil for these bits but you might aswell use steam oil on the motion because it won't make much difference and it'll save you carrying two things of oil.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same shock when I got Bertie, they are just big. I haven't got an Edrig but have its big brother, Lawley. I find that if you open the gas valve just after filling you get a very unstable flow of gas but if you just leave it open for a couple of seconds without lighting, then shut the valve wait a minute then light it, it will light first time. Other than that just follow the instructions. Oh and make sure you run it on a stable surface( not the gravel )
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what Ive seen try not to let the gas roar to high when the smoke box door is shut as the material the door is made from is pathetically thin and the paint has a habit of burning really quickly. Oh and try not crash it.    Good luck and hope it all goes to plan.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

also i had promblem on mine that bolts were loses e.g smoke boxs may be good to nip them up a bit
michael
p.s great engine it will last for years happy steaming
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ptlrcecil wrote:
try not to let the gas roar to high when the smoke box door is shut as the material the door is made from is pathetically thin

Newer oneshave a heat baffle on the inside of the door thankfully.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SillyBilly wrote:
mhlr wrote:
and 3 in 1 oil for lubing the motion.

Donb't use 3in1 oil on the motion it's thin as it is and as it heats up it'll go even thinner. You can get some bearing oil for these bits but you might aswell use steam oil on the motion because it won't make much difference and it'll save you carrying two things of oil.


Well I do that anyway because I've never been a*sed to go and buy the correct stuff. I heard that using steam oil on the other areas of the motion can lead to dirt gathering and that leads to wear...?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wot Pete said- I use 3 in 1, just make sure you splash lots on, and after every couple of runs wash it all off with a generous squirt of WD40 and leave to drip dry, then thoroughly re- oil before running again.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive always used normal steam oil on all of the motion and ive never  had a problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steam oil is fine as long as you clean it off and replace reguarly- it's sticky! Of course the more overgrown/ mucky your trackbed is the worse it'll be- it won't be an issue at all if you run on clean and tidy raised tracks, but if you run through a jungle...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank goodness I have a shelf! My excelsior does not suffer from the hot smokebox door problem, probably because I have no mountains to climb and no heavy trains to haul so my gas is allways turned right down to nearly inaudiable!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my edrig paint has burned of twice now and i have the burner low very low and i am use high temp paint what wrong ??
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PCLR wrote:
my edrig paint has burned of twice now and i have the burner low very low and i am use high temp paint what wrong ??


I'm assuming you mean smokebox door paint? Mine (nearly new) has a thick disc of metal (looks like an aluminium alloy of sorts) inside the smokebox door to deflect the heat, held on with the smokebox door dart, which has a long thread on it and screws into said metal disc. I'm sure you could make something easily enough if yours doesn't have one. That said, it still shouldn't happen; if you've painted it yourself how well did you prepare the surface? It'll need a good rub down and thorough degrease for the paint to stick properly. If not, the only other option is overenthusiasm with the gas regulator really. Are you running it on the single fill system or does it have a boiler fill valve?



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